October 12th, 2009
Explanation for delays
Today I met with Alan, the Hansen and Horn VP of Sales, regarding the delays on our house. I had expressed serious concerns in an email sent to H&H last week about our house not being done by the end of the year, which would have financial consequences for us because of the window we had locked in for our financing. Alan and I had an enlightening conversation.
As a quick background: as of today, we’re now at three weeks with no work done on site. We’re currently waiting for framing to begin. Prior to this, we had spent nearly four weeks waiting for the foundation crew to start on the basement. We are, naturally, a little frustrated, and extremely curious about what was causing the holdups. When we inquired, they had only indicated that they were waiting for the appropriate vendors to be available; other customers, however, had started wondering on this blog and elsewhere if the company was still financially solid. I personally thought it was a cashflow problem due to them selling so many houses at the same time this summer (which they did) and now having to build them all simultaneously. Our Realtor even launched his own little investigation to make sure the company was on solid ground.
The point is, there was a lot of speculation and not a lot of solid info. So I was very much looking forward to my meeting with Alan. Let me point out that prior to entering the construction phase, there had been no reason to suspect there were any issues with this builder. They were always spoken highly of, and all the H&H employees we had come in contact with were some of the most professional, courteous, and honest people we’ve dealt with in any business.
In short, my meeting with Alan went well. He went out of his way to explain the situation to me and set my mind at ease. To address our immediate concerns, he assured me that Hansen and Horn would cover any costs associated with running past our financing window of December 31 (this is in addition to the promise they already made to cover the $8000 first-time homebuyer’s tax credit for not hitting the original November 30 target date).
To address the issue of the delays themselves, Alan stepped me through the situations they’re facing with their vendors. On the surface, you would think (as I did) that in this economy there should be dozens of construction companies out there ready to work at any instant. In reality, many have folded, and those that are left are often so cash-strapped that they’re insisting on payment before any work is done — so there goes a significant amount of the builder’s leverage for schedules. Then there’s the banks who finance the construction, who are being more tight-fisted and slow to disperse money than ever. Those are the core problems — lack of available vendors and bank financing — and Hansen and Horn is stuck in the middle of contractors who can’t buy the nails to do the job unless they get paid up front, and banks who don’t want to give out any more money until they see something more built. Alan spent much more time explaining the whole process and its problems to me in detail, which I will not attempt to recount here, but which I greatly appreciated.
The upside is, they’re working on a plan to allow them to continue to operate at the speed they’re used to within this changed construction environment. I will not get into any specifics in case anything Alan told me was sensitive information (not that I have a whole lot of specifics), but suffice to say that my mind has been set at ease and I — also working in a business whose fortunes are closely tied with other businesses’ cashflow — understand the issues Hansen and Horn is facing are not through poor practices on their part.
That’s not to say I’m happy about it at all, but having gotten a glimpse of what they’ve been doing behind the scenes I’m satisfied that they’re actually not messing around with us and have been straightforward about what’s going on. The situation is not ideal, but we’re OK with what they’re doing to make it right. The financial guarantees and the facetime with Alan certainly helped.
So, a little more hurry up and wait for now. Although Alan did indicate that they’re pressing hard to get the lumber for our framing delivered at the end of this week, so we’ll be watching for that.
Let this be a lesson to all service-based businesses: just communicate! Most people are rational and understanding (most), and even I — not known for my huge amounts of patience — can understand and sympathize with what you’re facing if you just give it to me straight, rather than let speculation run rampant and amplify people’s fears by not communicating thoroughly. This is a problem we see at my company with a lot of businesses who are used to just giving the “company line” when there’s an issue. In the Internet economy, conversations about you are happening out there whether you want them to or not (see: this blog), and what people are looking for is open and honest communication rather than a PR line. Consumers appreciate that more than many businesses yet realize. /off soapbox
October 28th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
tr says:
Matthew / Amanda,
I hope you ultimatley get everything you expect from H&H during your build, however don’t set your expectations too high……the reason for the delay in construction is because they can’t pay the vendors, and I can’t figure out how they havn’t filed yet….as you mentioned, it is a cash flow problem. Don’t get me wrong they have great employees that really care, and I really do hope everything works out for you and your family. We’ll keep an eye on your blog…good luck, hope everyting works out well.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Still framing | Build a House Blog says:
[...] Despite Alan’s assurances, I’m naturally becoming more concerned about H&H’s commitment and capability to actually finish our house. Messages received through this blog from both other customers and contractors about delays and lack of payment do not make us feel better about Hansen and Horn’s stability; I’m trying to take everything with a grain of salt, because who knows what other factors are at play in each situation, but it all leaves a bad taste. [...]
October 30th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
somethingtothinkabout says:
“….many have folded, and those that are left are often so cash-strapped that they’re insisting on payment before any work is done…”
THEY FOLDED BECAUSE THEY TRUSTED HANSEN AND HORN BUT WERE RIPPED OFF AND NOT PAID AND TRICKED INTO GOING WAY IN DEBT FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY TRUSTED THEM! NOW THEY ARE INSISTING TO BE PAID IN ADVANCED BECAUSE THEY’VE BEEN LIED TO SO MANY TIMES. THAT MAKES ME SO MAD TO HEAR ALAN SAY: (…ARE STUCK IN THE MIDDLE), THEY CAUSED IT!
November 1st, 2009 at 1:08 am
Many people will regret working for Hansen and Horn for a very, very long time. « Indianapolis Home Builder Complaints .com says:
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November 2nd, 2009 at 10:36 am
run, run run says:
I feel for everyone who is building a home with H&H right now or scheduled to start one. Get your money back and run. They owe every one of their subs and sometimes numerous subs of same trade a total of millions. Not to mention they are involved with numerous lawsuits. Someone would be better off trying to build their own house. Every you hear is probably true and not conjecture. TRust me this company does not care about you or the quality of home they build you. Especially since your lumber will come from Lowe’s (there’s quality for you). I could write a book on this company and all the dealings with them. I’m not an angry sub just a bystander watching them screw over good people and get away with it. Unbelievable. I wish everyone dealing with them the best they are going to need it.
November 18th, 2009 at 7:55 am
Sherry says:
You all need to get get togheter and file a class action stop all work suit. This company is doing criminal acts behind closed doors. All for the Horns to come out of this mess solid, and everyone else burning in the dust. They are reorganizing under a new name, to bankrupt the current company. Beware ALL !! Call Attorney General and file a complaint! Call the news media. Expose the owners!
If it smells, it is rotten to the core.
November 18th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Sean says:
I am building a house with H&H. It is at the framing stage. Thus far they seemed to have used good quality materials and workmanship. I do know that the lumber did not come Lowes!